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	<title>Comments on: Rudy Fernandez is trying to put that nasty incident with Trevor Ariza in the past</title>
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		<title>By: Jason in Los Angeles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason in Los Angeles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ardie

True dat.</description>
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<p>True dat.</p>
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		<title>By: ardie</title>
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		<dc:creator>ardie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, you doth protest too much, Dude. In fact, you&#039;re guilty of the sins you describe. Brian, though puffed up and insulting, was at least correct about Igor&#039;s illogical content.

To quote a famous Los Angelean: &quot;Can&#039;t we all just get along?&quot;

Nah. I guess you&#039;re right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, you doth protest too much, Dude. In fact, you&#8217;re guilty of the sins you describe. Brian, though puffed up and insulting, was at least correct about Igor&#8217;s illogical content.</p>
<p>To quote a famous Los Angelean: &#8220;Can&#8217;t we all just get along?&#8221;</p>
<p>Nah. I guess you&#8217;re right.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason in Los Angeles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason in Los Angeles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian&#039;s comments are typical of reactionary, judgmental, completely biased and ignorant fans. He chooses to ignore the comments by us reasonable fans and highlight the bad apples of the bunch. Your hatred of us is predictable, boring, and laughable. You keep your prejudices and we&#039;ll keep fueling them by sending you home again in the playoffs. How&#039;s that for arrogance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian&#8217;s comments are typical of reactionary, judgmental, completely biased and ignorant fans. He chooses to ignore the comments by us reasonable fans and highlight the bad apples of the bunch. Your hatred of us is predictable, boring, and laughable. You keep your prejudices and we&#8217;ll keep fueling them by sending you home again in the playoffs. How&#8217;s that for arrogance.</p>
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		<title>By: ardie</title>
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		<dc:creator>ardie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 04:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have added Lamarcus vs. Pau, too.</description>
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		<title>By: ardie</title>
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		<dc:creator>ardie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 04:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask yourself what Ariza was most likely trying to do: (1) Get the ball, (2) make sure Rudy couldn&#039;t finish and get the and-one. That was all it was --- for intention, anyway.

Now, should a guy with  -skeels-  know better than to tomahawk a guy who&#039;s in full extension 30 inches off the ground? Oh hell yeah. If he does catch the arm the guy goes down in a heap, possibly hurting himself.

So I&#039;d say his intention was within the bounds of the game, but his judgement and execution were, at best, overheated, and at worst, reckless. Should have gotten a suspension.

BTW, it won&#039;t be much of a rivalry until we can scare them in the second season. But it sure was fun seeing Oden vs. Bynum and Kobe vs. Roy and thinking &#039;I may get to see this for a lot more years...&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask yourself what Ariza was most likely trying to do: (1) Get the ball, (2) make sure Rudy couldn&#8217;t finish and get the and-one. That was all it was &#8212; for intention, anyway.</p>
<p>Now, should a guy with  -skeels-  know better than to tomahawk a guy who&#8217;s in full extension 30 inches off the ground? Oh hell yeah. If he does catch the arm the guy goes down in a heap, possibly hurting himself.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;d say his intention was within the bounds of the game, but his judgement and execution were, at best, overheated, and at worst, reckless. Should have gotten a suspension.</p>
<p>BTW, it won&#8217;t be much of a rivalry until we can scare them in the second season. But it sure was fun seeing Oden vs. Bynum and Kobe vs. Roy and thinking &#8216;I may get to see this for a lot more years&#8230;&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Igor&#039;s comments are typical of Laker fans.

In the minds of thier fans, the Lakers do no wrong.  It was Rudy&#039;s fault for having the audacity to try to score and easy buckets against their Royal Highnesses the Lakers.  He ought to have stopped and handed the ball to Ariza in tribute.

C&#039;mon Igor.  Rudy wasn&#039;t &quot;in traffic&quot; as you said.  It was a breakaway dunk.  The only player within 10 feet was Ariza.  

I suspect you didn&#039;t actually see the play. Yet you feel strongly enough that you know what you&#039;re talking about that you&#039;ll actually post a comment about the play.  

Sadly typical of Laker fans.  Arrogance that has no shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Igor&#8217;s comments are typical of Laker fans.</p>
<p>In the minds of thier fans, the Lakers do no wrong.  It was Rudy&#8217;s fault for having the audacity to try to score and easy buckets against their Royal Highnesses the Lakers.  He ought to have stopped and handed the ball to Ariza in tribute.</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon Igor.  Rudy wasn&#8217;t &#8220;in traffic&#8221; as you said.  It was a breakaway dunk.  The only player within 10 feet was Ariza.  </p>
<p>I suspect you didn&#8217;t actually see the play. Yet you feel strongly enough that you know what you&#8217;re talking about that you&#8217;ll actually post a comment about the play.  </p>
<p>Sadly typical of Laker fans.  Arrogance that has no shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just have to say, it was a hard foul that shouldn&#039;t have happened.  I don&#039;t think the intention was to injure but he did hit him in the head and pull him off balance with his follow through even though it appeared he was going for the ball.  Even Roy&#039;s issue wasn&#039;t the foul but was the pumping out the chest while the guy was clearly injured in the course of the play.  Ariza may not be a dirty player but hopefully he learned something about being a pro and not risking another player&#039;s health when frustrated and down by 30 in the third quarter.

Oh, yeah, Blazers win...Blazers win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just have to say, it was a hard foul that shouldn&#8217;t have happened.  I don&#8217;t think the intention was to injure but he did hit him in the head and pull him off balance with his follow through even though it appeared he was going for the ball.  Even Roy&#8217;s issue wasn&#8217;t the foul but was the pumping out the chest while the guy was clearly injured in the course of the play.  Ariza may not be a dirty player but hopefully he learned something about being a pro and not risking another player&#8217;s health when frustrated and down by 30 in the third quarter.</p>
<p>Oh, yeah, Blazers win&#8230;Blazers win.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lost in all ruckus of fans trying to hype tonight&#039;s game up even further is a misconception that Ariza is a dirty player. Bill Laimbeer? THAT was a dirty player who consistently took cheap shots intended to injure opposing players. Ariza? Not even close. As a coach or teammate, you -want- to see your guys compete and challenge plays like Rudy&#039;s shot. Sometimes it results in spectacular plays, blocked dunks often being the best of them. But in Ariza&#039;s case it resulted in a very scary situation.

It also should be noted that Pau Gasol and Rudy have spent many years playing together as teammates, and when Rudy went down, Gasol instantly got up and starred nonstop at his FRIEND laying on the floor. Gasol&#039;s concern was echoed on the Laker bench. ALL players can relate to seeing a teammate go down. No matter how the play evolved between Rudy and Trevor, the idea that the intent was to injure Rudy is the thought process of someone who has not seen Trevor play much, or else is out of touch with reality.  Athletes are not soldiers in a war, even if they use a lot of the same lingo.

I understand why Blazers fans wanna get hyped up and yell. PLEASE DO! Frankly, that&#039;s one of the best parts of games at the Rose Garden, THE FANS! The energy and crowd noise of Blazer home games (along w/ Jazz fans) is consistently loud and exciting, a stark contrast to the lethargic LA crowds.  Boo Kobe, boo Ariza. And since Phil Jackson&#039;s health is keeping him from making the trip, boo Kurt Rambis, too! There is zero doubt that the Rose Garden and its fans are far superior in their support of their team versus the Staples Center and all the too-cool-to-care SOBs sitting in their corporate seats. 

But keep in mind the difference between &quot;real&quot; dirty players, and players competing.  Sometimes the results of a play can blur the line. I&#039;ve seen many a Laker fan scream bloody murder when Kobe ends up in a heap on the floor as a result of strong competition. 

I&#039;ve been a hoops fan nearly 40 years. I love the Lakers, always have. But I&#039;m a hoops fan first. High school, college, womens. I love the game, even it it&#039;s distorted NBA form.  Frankly, I don&#039;t consider the NBA to be &quot;real&quot; basketball.  If you watched the recently concluded NCAA tournaments (including the womens), it would be impossible for the typical NBA fan to not wonder over and over how the refs didn&#039;t call what were CLEARLY fouls.  Oh wait, that&#039;s right. It&#039;s because in the NBA, with it&#039;s long 82 game season, system that protects shooters and mish-mash of goofy rules fans learn to accept stuff that is nonexistent in every other basketball league.  I&#039;m not about to condone nor lambast  Ariza&#039;s foul on Fernandez, but I do recognize how and why it happened, and dirty play or malicious intent it was not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lost in all ruckus of fans trying to hype tonight&#8217;s game up even further is a misconception that Ariza is a dirty player. Bill Laimbeer? THAT was a dirty player who consistently took cheap shots intended to injure opposing players. Ariza? Not even close. As a coach or teammate, you -want- to see your guys compete and challenge plays like Rudy&#8217;s shot. Sometimes it results in spectacular plays, blocked dunks often being the best of them. But in Ariza&#8217;s case it resulted in a very scary situation.</p>
<p>It also should be noted that Pau Gasol and Rudy have spent many years playing together as teammates, and when Rudy went down, Gasol instantly got up and starred nonstop at his FRIEND laying on the floor. Gasol&#8217;s concern was echoed on the Laker bench. ALL players can relate to seeing a teammate go down. No matter how the play evolved between Rudy and Trevor, the idea that the intent was to injure Rudy is the thought process of someone who has not seen Trevor play much, or else is out of touch with reality.  Athletes are not soldiers in a war, even if they use a lot of the same lingo.</p>
<p>I understand why Blazers fans wanna get hyped up and yell. PLEASE DO! Frankly, that&#8217;s one of the best parts of games at the Rose Garden, THE FANS! The energy and crowd noise of Blazer home games (along w/ Jazz fans) is consistently loud and exciting, a stark contrast to the lethargic LA crowds.  Boo Kobe, boo Ariza. And since Phil Jackson&#8217;s health is keeping him from making the trip, boo Kurt Rambis, too! There is zero doubt that the Rose Garden and its fans are far superior in their support of their team versus the Staples Center and all the too-cool-to-care SOBs sitting in their corporate seats. </p>
<p>But keep in mind the difference between &#8220;real&#8221; dirty players, and players competing.  Sometimes the results of a play can blur the line. I&#8217;ve seen many a Laker fan scream bloody murder when Kobe ends up in a heap on the floor as a result of strong competition. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a hoops fan nearly 40 years. I love the Lakers, always have. But I&#8217;m a hoops fan first. High school, college, womens. I love the game, even it it&#8217;s distorted NBA form.  Frankly, I don&#8217;t consider the NBA to be &#8220;real&#8221; basketball.  If you watched the recently concluded NCAA tournaments (including the womens), it would be impossible for the typical NBA fan to not wonder over and over how the refs didn&#8217;t call what were CLEARLY fouls.  Oh wait, that&#8217;s right. It&#8217;s because in the NBA, with it&#8217;s long 82 game season, system that protects shooters and mish-mash of goofy rules fans learn to accept stuff that is nonexistent in every other basketball league.  I&#8217;m not about to condone nor lambast  Ariza&#8217;s foul on Fernandez, but I do recognize how and why it happened, and dirty play or malicious intent it was not.</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;grabbed his wrist, yanked him off balance and it kept him from landing on his feet.&quot; wow.  thats pretty impressive while mid air in a split second. we&#039;ll just call ariza &quot;neo&quot; from now on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;grabbed his wrist, yanked him off balance and it kept him from landing on his feet.&#8221; wow.  thats pretty impressive while mid air in a split second. we&#8217;ll just call ariza &#8220;neo&#8221; from now on.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blazers are gonna lose.  30 is a dream buddy.  I love Rudy but that was not a purposeful foul.  Not a good play on Ariza&#039;s part thats for sure...  Just enjoy the game.  Blazers are great to watch, don&#039;t make people hate them just because of ignorant fans.  Lakers are the best team in the league and will take it all this year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blazers are gonna lose.  30 is a dream buddy.  I love Rudy but that was not a purposeful foul.  Not a good play on Ariza&#8217;s part thats for sure&#8230;  Just enjoy the game.  Blazers are great to watch, don&#8217;t make people hate them just because of ignorant fans.  Lakers are the best team in the league and will take it all this year!</p>
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