Subscribe Feed (RSS)Unless you spent a lot of money going to Las Vegas, expecting a win, there’s not too much to feel bad about off that MAACO Bowl experience. Those games simply don’t matter. And the last time BYU smacked a team around like that in the Vegas Bowl it was the Ducks and Oregon came within a whisker of playing for a national title the following season.
Just don’t make excuses. Don’t blame the wind. Either BYU was just that much better than your team, your team couldn’t get up for the game properly or it wasn’t very well prepared. For whatever reason, it happened.
Move on. And as I keep telling you, unless you’re in a BCS bowl — or even the national championship game — it really doesn’t matter.
Tags: BYU, Dwight Jaynes, Las Vegas Bowl, Oregon State Beavers
You were right on this one Dwight, the Beaver’s streak bowl wins ended last night. Just didn’t play to expectations….I hope the Ducks watched what happened and properly practice for New Years day…
Good call… although you were only 1 for 2 because the Blazers beat a Mavs team with Dirk playing. Anyway always appreciate your insight. Hopefully Katz’s mobility is an extra weapon for the Beavs next year and everyone is ready. It is the last year for the Rodger’s as a duo (unless James wants to redshirt… lol) so I hope the entire team makes the best of it.
Exactly. We were unprepared and outcoached. The goobers on 95.5 kept talking about the wind too much. Seems to me like BYU played in the same wind. Hmmmm….. It affected two of our punts because….the punter and coaches forgot it was windy and did not adjust. Not the winds fault if you decide not to care it exists. Besides that, just play ball. BYU sure did. The wind didn’t affect what they did.
As a life long Beaver fan….. They were AWFUL, and the coaching was AWFUL…. But Katz looked real good though.
But if it was the Ducks in this game, and played as bad as the Beavers did, along with getting their asses handed to them. The Duck fans would be making excuse after excuse….
Let me call you the WAAmublance. Typical Beaver response. Why can’t you just take your medicine without having to be a Duck basher at the same time. You lost. Live with it.
man they got there asses kicked!
Hats off to BYU. They played tough, precision football. However, as a Beaver fan (not alumni)…they should all be absolutely embarrassed at their pathetic lack of effort.
From Mike Riley to the 4th string punter….shame on you.
Dwight, you are usually the voice of reason when things get wild, so I’m really surprised at your one comment, that last night doesn’t matter. Being in the media business, you surely are aware that a poor performance on a national stage translates adversely to future tv selections, for the team and the conference, and that translates directly to dollars. Big dollars. Which is the lifeblood of any and all programs.
Losing doesn’t matter so much, but performing very poorly does. It was a failure in a rare opportunity to showcase the program. Failures like that are much harder to erase from the country’s memory than any number of good outings.
Look at that. Little brother syndrome in full display. In a blog post that is not even about the ducks, bumpity has to remind himself why he thinks he’s better than duck fans. Lol. I love it.
wait who is displaying what?
seriously bumpity, is that how you cope with losing? are you the guy who strangled a live duck, painted him orange and hung him from a bridge in cornvallytucky? are you the guy who stole the ducks sticker off my car after the civil war? why don’t you sober up, take some zanex, change your poopy pants and religate your pathetic blog posts to calling out your own team’s failure.
Can’t wait to read your pathetic excuses after Ohio State hands the Quacks their asses….. Brian get back to collecting your empty PBR cans so that you may have enough change to buy another six of tallboy PBR on New Years day..
Bumpity… okay, i will…. but I
prefer Bridgeport Ales.
Bumpity: How long did it take for you to hide those OSU car window flags. Halftime of the game?
Sorry to disappoint you fairy Barry, but I don’t fly the flag like you do…
I’m just wondering how many Beaver fans are going to be asking for a refund for their trip from Mike Riley. Oops, wrong fan base.
Jirk,
I’m pretty sure that has nothing to do with the Las Vegas Bowl. One moronic Duck fan sends in a letter in SEPTEMBER and its something beaver fans want to trash talk about in December? Maybe you are questioning the wrong fan base.
Actually, it’s perfectly relevant and Dwight mentioned at the very start of this entry that the only Beaver fans that should be pissed are the ones who attended the game. Hence, the dissatisfied customer. Isn’t that what the DB duck fan did to Chip Kelly earlier in the year? Do you understand the concept of fan trash talk? Do you know that Beavers and ducks are rivals? Do you know that all past indiscretions are fair game? Or are all the sheep jokes and sucker punches off the table?
Sincerely,
Jirk
Sorry, but Mr. Jaynes is wrong, these games count.
First of all, they shape conference perceptions in the media for both this year and next, which can affect future BCS at large odds before a 2010 game is even played.
Ending the year with a thud means the Beavers will undoubtedly start next fall without a preseason ranking and will not get the benefit of the doubt from the pollsters while breaking in a new quarterback. If they prove any good at all, they will have to claw their way in from outside of the polls.
And not to make too much of this, but a badly played bowl game can influence recruits who are on the fence about the program as there are still just about two months of recruiting time left. Say Arizona wins their bowl game and a mutual recruit also just watched the Beavs get pantsed on national television AGAIN, who is it easier to feel good about in January? The last impression can be as important as the first.
Finally, leaving the 2009 season on a sour note is not a good thing for a hand to mouth program like the Beavs, who already lack donor and season ticket holder enthusiasm as things stand. Perhaps Tuesday night gave the wavering season ticket holder a reason to jump ship after a possible early glimpse of the 2010 Beavers plagued by inconsistent/ineffective/incompetent quarterback play?
Perhaps these “me too” bowl games shouldn’t be a big deal to a fan, but they are part of the lifeblood of programs and getting absolutely trashed as a program is never a good thing.
Your probably right but the recruiting class is full and some kids probably prefer to commit to a school were they can make a difference… almost like a challenge.
As far as preseason rank. Normally I would agree but with TCU (if it goes through), BSU, and a full Pac-10 slate the beavers could start ranked #119 and it wouldn’t matter. They will have the chance to prove it on the field.
I agree on the booster donations and season ticket sales. That might take a hit a bit. Although I imagine season ticket sales will be up because of all the good Pac-10 home games.
If bowl performances were linked to the next years rankings then the Beavs would have started out in the top 25 the past three years.
Backing into the hind end of the Top 25 atop a pile of cupcake bowl opponents does not create the type of preseason hype I am talking about.
Coming within an unstopped drive of possibly beating the Rose Bowl bound Ducks and then dispatching a higher ranked foe in a bowl game would have done it.
Instead we saw a typical big game Beavers gag job.
The game was embarrassing enough, but then to have Gaymes and Jizz in tights prancing around rubbing each other and going up and down on the poles made it even more embarrassing. Both had a fumble lost in the game (probably from their well lubricated hands). The best was when Jaquelyn lost the ball then got lit up and BYU rumbled into the endzone.
Gaymes, Jizz, Jaquelyn? What are you, 13?
although i’m a duck fan, i really wanted osu to win this game, because yeah, it doesn’t matter too much for the beavs, but rightly or wrongly, fairly or unfairly, i have to think it does matter somewhat in terms of the pac-10’s reputation/status—-it was really nice last year when the pac10 went undefeated in the bowl season, for instance—seeing byu paste osu just makes joe in tallahassee or john in the bronx think the pac10 is nothing special…
First of all I must say great call Dwight. The Beavers didn’t show up and you nailed it. You came up a bit short when you described the night as “chilly”. I was there and it was MUCH worse than chilly.
My biggest complaint about the Beavers this year (aside from not putting pressure on the QB) was their lack of discipline. They always find a way to make a mistake (penalty, turnover, etc) at the worst possible times. It happened numerous times this year and probably cost them the USC game. Mike Riley is a great guy but he seems to do a rather poor job of make sure that his team is disciplined during key moments.
BYU played in that frigid weather and had no problem kicking our arses up and down the field. What an embarrassing effort and a true lack of professionalisim.
Yah I know there college kids, but damn come prepared or just stay home
I also believe these games do matter from a recruiting standpoint, especially following a season in which so many Pac-10 teams battled to stand out from one another.
As for the wind… who cares? Both teams had to deal with it. It’s no different than temperature, altitude, rain, etc. Not too long ago, Beaver fans were quick to point out they had one of the best running backs in the nation… well, where was he on Tuesday? Certainly, if he was that good, he would have been more of a factor in a wind-riddled game, right?
I’m not bashing Quiz… in fact, I think he is one of the top running backs in the Pac-10… not the best (gotta go with Gearhart and LaMichael on that), but probably the most versatile running back at the moment.
My point is, even with the Rodgers bros., and arguably the Pac-10’s best passing QB, and a stout run defense, the Beavers STILL couldn’t get it done against this BYU squad.
This had nothing to do with the wind, and everything to do with getting out-coached. Mike Riley failed to mentally prepare his team for this game. We hear lots of praise about Mike Riley, and I agree, he’s a good coach… but I think the past couple of seasons have exposed the fact that he’s not a great coach. His teams can’t ever seem to win the biggest games that matter the most. They’ve lost out on two Rose Bowls. They lost this year to Cincinatti, last year to Penn State. They lost at home to Arizona. Yes, they had a nice streak of bowl wins, but none of their recent wins were against quality opponents.
That’s why I, a Duck fan, was actually excited for this Las Vegas Bowl. Finally, the Beavs would get the chance to knock off a non-conference, top-15 opponent on national TV. It was a great draw for what could have been a totally worthless bowl.
And the Beavers choked. Again.
Mike Riley is good coach, but I really wonder if he’s taken this team as far as he’s capable of taking them. Dennis Erickson got OSU to a BCS bowl, as did Mike Bellotti for the Ducks. Now, Chip Kelly has taken UO to a BCS bowl.
Meanwhile, in all of those seasons as OSU’s coach, the best Mike Riley has done is reach the Sun Bowl.
Credit Riley for turning around the OSU program, and making them winners before Dennis Erickson arrived. And credit him for keeping them respectable, too.
You have to wonder, though… will the Beavers ever get anything else out of Mike Riley?
Scott, well said. I do hope Mike Riley can get to that BCS game at some point, hopefully not at the expense of a Ducks BCS bid. But he runs a clean program with mostly good kids and he’s a class guy. Maybe that’s all you can expect in Corvallis?
i HATE the ducks im glad they painted them orange but strangleing it thats a little harsh